3c Vs 7c Trumpet Mouthpiece
Best Trumpet Mouthpiece Reviews and Tested. The Paititi Silver Plated Bb 3C Trumpet Mouthpiece is another high-quality piece that is perfect for intermediate to professional level trumpet players. It is a 3C mouthpiece that is perfect for most of the standard trumpets that musicians play. It produces a centered smooth sound that is easy to.
Mouthpiece Specs: Bach Standard Trumpet Bach Standard Trumpet Mouthpieces Model No.ThroatBackboreDepth of CupApprox. Cup Dia.Rim ShapeDescription1Deep17.50mmMedium thinExtra-large cup for players with a thin robust embouchure. Produces a great volume of tone.1XDeep17.00mmMedium wideThe pre-1970 (old style) No. 1, wide with a slightly smaller cup and wider rim than the present model.1BMedium deep17.00mmMedium wideLarge cup for players with a robust embouchure. Produces a warm tone with great volume.1CMedium17.00mmMedium wideLarge diameter, medium cup - good for all-around use.1CWMedium17.00mmSlightly wider, gradually lowered toward the outside.Same as 1C with wider cushion rim.1DMedium shallow17.00mmMedium wideMedium shallow cup facilitates high register.
Brilliant sound.1EShallow17.00mmMedium wideFacilitates high register. Excellent mouthpiece for soprano or piccolo trumpet.1 1/4CMedium17.00mmMedium wideLarge cup for powerful trumpeters. Compact tone of great carrying power.1 1/2BMedium deep17.00mmMedium wide, not too sharp.Produces a scintillating warm tone of large volume. For players with a well-trained embouchure.
Comfortable rim contour.Artisan 1 1/2B1 1/2CMedium17.00mmMedium wide, not too sharp.Large diameter, medium cup - good for all-around use.2Deep16.50mmMedium wide, lowered toward the outside.Large cup; powerful Teutonic quality of tone. For players with a good embouchure.2CMedium16.50mmMedium wide, lowered toward the outside.Large cup; powerful, brilliant tone. For players with a good embouchure.2 1/2CMedium16.40mmMedium wide, lowered toward the outside.Large cup; brilliant, heroic, crisp C trumpet tone. For players with strong, muscular lips.2 3/4CMedium16.40mmMedium wide, lowered toward the outside. Slightly narrower than 2 1/2C.Large cup; bright, lively C trumpet tone. For players with a normal embouchure.3Deep16.30mmMedium wideFairly large cup with full rich tone.3BMedium deep16.30mmMedium wideA fairly large cup. The tone is warm and full.3CMedium16.30mmMedium wideFairly large cup, good for all-around use.3CWMedium16.30mmSlightly wider, lowered toward the outside.Same as 3C with wider cushion style rim.3DMedium Shallow16.30mmMedium wideFairly large, medium shallow cup produces a more brilliant tone.
Facilitates high register.3EShallow16.30mmMedium widePreferred by players who want a large mouthpiece but with a shallow cup. Facilitates high register.3FExtra shallow16.30mmMedium wideSame as No. 3E but with extra-shallow cup. Produces sparkling tone in the extreme high register.3MV#27 (.144')#56Modified V16.87mmModified comfort rim with a flatter topCommercial Mouthpiece3S#27 (.144')#56Shallow16.64mmModified comfort rim with a flatter topCommercial Mouthpiece5AVery deep16.25mmMedium wide, rounded inside edge.A fairly large cup with a dark, full, mellow tone.5BMedium deep16.25mmMedium wide, lowered toward the outside. Medium sharp edge.A precise rim and a fairly large cup.
The tone is vivid and full.5VVery deep16.25mmSame as 5B.V-style cup with larger #20 throat and #25 backbore. Free blowing, very flexible.5MVMedium deep16.25mmSame as 5B.Medium deep V style cup with #25 throat and #25 backbore. Williams 1967 base hit pinball machines. Good commercial sound.5MV(Comm.)#27(.144')#56Modified V16.54mmModified comfort rim with a flatter topCommercial Mouthpiece5S#27(.144')#56Shallow16.31mmModified comfort rim with a flatter topCommercial Mouthpiece5SVShallow16.25mmSame as 5B.Shallow V style cup with #25 throat and #25 backbore.5CMedium16.25mmMedium wide, well rounded toward the inside and outside, fairly flat.For players with a strong embouchure who do not like a sharp edge.
The tone is lively and rich.6Deep16.20mmMedium wide, not too sharp.Produces a rich, clear tone of substantial body. Its rim shape was preferred by Vincent Bach.
(Cornet model comes with #24 backbore as standard.)6BMedium deep16.20mmMedium wide, not too sharp.Produces a beautiful, ringing tone and responds easily. Medium-large size gives the lips sufficient room to execute freely.6BMMedium deep16.20mmMedium wide, not too sharp.Same as 6B but larger 26 throat, 24 backbore. Large symphony sound.
(Not available as fluegelhorn mpc.)6CMedium16.20mmMedium wide, not too sharp, rather flat.A distinctive C trumpet cup. Its clear tone cuts through the largest bands and orchestras.7Deep16.20mmMedium wide, lowered toward the outside. Sharp inside edgeThis popular model produces a colorful, liquid tone which is uniform over the entire scale. Desirable for all-around work.7AVery deep16.20mmMedium wide, lowered toward the outside. Sharp inside edge.Warm, melodious, rich tone approaches the quality of a lyric soprano voice. Free blowing.7BMedium deep16.20mmMedium wide, lowered toward the outside. Sharp inside edge.Slightly livelier timbre than the #7, full in the low and middle registers, responds easily on high tones.
Warm, rich sound. Well suited for all-around use.7BWMedium deep16.20mmSlightly wider, lowered toward the outside. Sharp inside edge.The same features as No. 7B with a cushion rim for players with slightly heavier lips.7CMedium16.20mmMedium wide, lowered toward the outside.
Medium sharp inside. Well rounded edge with a perfect grip.Probably the most widely used model in the world. Its brilliant tone is preferred by school musicians and by artists.7CWMedium16.20mmSlightly wider, gradually lowered toward the outside.The same as No. 7C with a comfortable cushion rim contour.
Very practical for strenuous work and players with large lips7DMedium shallow16.20mmMedium wide, lowered toward the outside. Similar to No. 7C.A shallower cup than No. 7C, designed principally for D trumpet but used successfully where great brilliance and easy high register are required.7DWMedium shallow16.20mmSlightly wider than No.
7D.This shallow Eb soprano trumpet (or cornet) cup is excellent for D trumpet and for playing continually in the high register. Cushion rim is helpful to players who use a little too much pressure.7EShallow16.20mmMedium wide.
Similar to No. 7C.This extra-shallow Eb soprano trumpet (or cornet) cup produces a crisp, sparkling tone in the extreme high register. Widely used for piccolo trumpet.7EWShallow16.20mmSlightly wider than No. 7E.The same as No. 7E with a cushion rim.
For players accustomed to playing with much pressure, especially in the high register.7MV#27(.144')#56Modified V16.23mmModified comfort rim with a flatter topCommercial Mouthpiece7S#27(.144')#56Shallow16.00mmModified comfort rim with a flatter topCommercial Mouthpiece8Deep16.20mmFairly wide with a slightly flatter surface than No.7. Rounded inner edge.The same cup as No. 7 but with a rim that players with protruding teeth find more comfortable.8BMedium deep16.20mmFairly wide with a slightly flatter surface than No.7B. Rounded inner edge.The same cup as No. 7B, with a rim that players with protruding teeth find more comfortable. Darker sound than No. 8.8CMedium16.20mmFairly wide with a slightly flatter surface than No.7C.
Rounded inner edge.The same cup as No. 7C but with a rim that players with protruding teeth find more comfortable.81/2Deep16.10mmMedium wide, lowered toward the outside. Medium-sharp inner edge.Slightly smaller in diameter than No.
7; produces a full, round tone. Preferred by players with a sensitive embouchure and by those whose work is very strenuous.8 1/2AVery deep16.10mmMedium wide with rounded inner edge.Produces a full, velvety tone. Suitable for cantilena playing.8 1/2BMedium deep16.10mmMedium wide, lowered toward the outside. Medium-sharp edge.Like No. 7B but with a cup diameter just enough smaller to facilitate production of the high tones.8 1/2CMedium16.10mmMedium wide, well rounded.Medium C cup provides flexibility and easy response.
Clear, brilliant tone throughout the register.8 3/4Deep16.10mmMedium wide, not too sharp.Produces a tone of great volume and Teutonic character. Very effective in symphonic work and opera.8 3/4CMedium16.10mmMedium wide, slightly flat.Similar to No. 7C, but with a slightly smaller cup diameter. Response helps endurance for players who suffer from fatigue.9Deep16.05mmMedium wide, lowered toward the outsideThe same style of cup and rim as No. 7, but with smaller cup diameter9AVery deep16.05mmMedium wide, well rounded.Produces a mellow, sweet cornet tone.9BMedium deep16.05mmMedium wide, lowered toward the outside.Corresponds with No. Slightly darker tone. Players with narrow lips who tire quickly feel relieved when using this model.9CMedium16.05mmMedium wide, lowered toward the outside.Similar in size to No.
9 but produces a more brilliant, open tone. Free high register, easy response. Suitable for strenuous all-around work by players with narrow lips.9DMedium shallow16.05mmMedium wide, lowered toward the outside.Similar in size to No. 9 and in tone to the more brilliant No. Players with narrow, sensitive lips get satisfactory results with this model. Recommended for the extreme high register.10Deep16.00mmFairly wide with a rather broad, flat surface.Similar to No.
7, but smaller in size and with a broad, flat rim. Suitable for players with fleshy soft lips.10BMedium deep16.00mmFairly wide with a rather broad, flat surface.Same size as No. 10 but with warmer tone. Gives good results to players with heavy, thick-lips, especially those who become easily fatigued.10CMedium16.00mmFairly wide with a rather broad, flat surface.Same rim as No.
10, but with a shallow C cup. Especially designed for high notes and sparkling brilliancy.10 1/2AVery deep15.90mmMedium wide, well rounded.Produces the mellow, rich lyric cornet tone favored by players of the Italian school.10 1/2CMedium15.90mmMedium wideFine high register, resonating low register. Particularly useful to players without a strong embouchure. Ideal for C trumpet.10 1/2CWMedium15.90mmExtra wide, high toward the inner edge.Size, cup shape, and playing qualities are similar to the 10 1/2C.
Cushion rim recommended for players who use heavy pressure.10 1/2DMedium shallow15.90mmMedium wide, high toward inner edge.Similar in size to No. 10 1/2C, with a shallower cup for more brilliancy and an easier high register.10 1/2DWMedium shallow15.90mmExtra wide, high toward the inner edge.Same depth of cup and diameter as 10 1/2D, with an extra-wide cushion rim for players with fleshy lips.10 1/2EShallow15.90mmMedium wide, high toward inner edge.The same scintillating tone as No. Preferred by players with weak lips who have to play in the high register.10 1/2EWShallow15.90mmExtra wide, high toward the inner edge.Cup diameter and shape are the same as No. 10 1/2E, but the extra-wide rim offers support to players who have soft, fleshy lips and play continually in the extreme high register.
Trumpet Mouthpiece 3c Vs 5c Vs 7c
Sometimes used for piccolo trumpet.10 1/2MVModified V15.34mmModified comfort rim with a flatter topCommercial Mouthpiece10 1/2SShallow15.11mmModified comfort rim with a flatter topCommercial Mouthpiece10 3/4AVery deep15.75mmMedium wide, well rounded.Slightly smaller cup diameter than No. Has the mellow, sweet tone generally used by players of the Italian school.10 3/4CWMedium15.75mmExtra wideCushion rim for players with thick, fleshy lips who are accustomed to using much pressure. There is no easier blowing mouthpiece with such voluminous and brilliant tone.10 3/4EWShallow15.75mmExtra wideShallower than No. 10 3/4CW to produce a very penetrating, glittering tone. For extreme high register work. Cushion rim.11AVery deep15.70mmMedium wide, well roundedA medium-small mouthpiece with a round, full, old-fashioned cornet tone.11BMedium deep15.70mmMedium wide, well-roundedA medium-small mouthpiece with a beautiful, full, clear tone.
Responds very easily, especially in the upper register. For players in the upper embouchure.11CMedium15.70mmMedium wideA beautiful brilliant C trumpet tone that requires little effort to play in the high register, yet with a free low range.11DMedium shallow15.70mmMedium wide, well rounded.Produces a brilliant tone, effective in the high register. Good for players not having a strong embouchure.11DWMedium shallow15.70mmExtra widePlayers with thick, fleshy lips, especially those who cannot rely on the strength of their lip muscles, can use this cushion rim mouthpiece to advantage.
Bach 7c Mouthpiece
Produces crisp, easy top tones.11EWShallow15.70mmExtra wide, rather high toward the inner edge.A cushion-rim mouthpiece especially designed for the extreme high register. Because of the extra-shallow cup, the tone is very brilliant, piercing, and cuts well. For players who use heavier than normal pressure in the high register.11 1/2AVery deep15.65mmMedium wide, well rounded.Similar to No. 11A, but slightly smaller. Produces a rich, round tone.11 1/2CMedium15.65mmMedium wideA brilliant, scintillating tone, very easy response and good, all-around register.11 3/4CMedium15.60mmMedium wide, well rounded.Easy playing, with a compact, brilliant tone.
Recommended for players with sensitive embouchures and with narrow lips.11 3/4CWMedium15.60mmFairly wide, rather flat, not too sharp.A cushion rim for players with soft, fleshy lips who rely on above average pressure. Responds easily in the high register.12Deep15.20mmBroad, rather flat.This popular model produces a full, mellow tone. A good choice for players of the English or Italian school who are accustomed to small mouthpieces, and players with heavy, weak lips.12BMedium deep15.20mmBroad, rather flat.The same rim as No. 12, with a slightly shallower cup to make the tone more lively. High register responds well.12CMedium15.20mmBroad, rather flat.Brilliant tone, easy high register for trumpeters who have to play forte in the upper range and for players with heavy, weak lips who have difficulty with the high tones.12CWMedium15.20mmBroad, rather flat, high toward the inside.Cup diameter and depth are the same as No. 12C, extra wide cushion rim.17Deep15.10mmMedium wideA small mouthpiece with a solid, compact tone.
Players with thin lips find this model highly satisfactory.17CMedium15.10mmMedium wideA lively, clear and brilliant tone, for players with thin lips whose embouchure tires easily.18Deep15.10mmBroad, rather flat.Has the same cup as No. 17, but a wider rim. Players of the old Italian or English school having heavy, soft lips and a rather sensitive embouchure choose this model.18CMedium15.10mmBroad, rather flat.Same cup design as No. 17C, with a wider and flatter rim to distribute pressure over a larger surface.20CMedium15.00mmMedium wideA very small mouthpiece, recommended to players who have extremely weak or delicate lips.
This is my personal opinion: it doesn't matter what size or shape your mouthpiece is, as long as it fits your face. Kind of like shoes.Keeping with that analogy; there are several different KINDS of shoes- loafers, tennis shoes, flip flops, track shoes.Different aspects of mouthpieces are like those qualities that make those shoes different.
The 'size' of the shoe, generally speaking, is the RIM DIAMETER. This is the inner distance from the inside of the rim to the opposite inner edge. If this doesn't fit your face (bigger lips, bigger size), you'll be in trouble no matter what.Next is the rim 'sharpness' and width.
This is how steep the mouthpiece goes from the flat rim to the cup of the mouthpiece. Think of it like the arch support- flat is comfortable, high is for performance (or just your preferences for grip). Sharper rims grip your face more, shallow let it slide. Narrow rims help hold things in place, thick rims are considered 'more comfortable'.The cup size is the 'style' of the shoe.
Just like with shoes, different depths and shapes of cups may be prudent depending on what you're doing. I think super-extra-big mouthpieces like the Bach 1C don't actually add anything, but the shape does matter. Cornet and flugelhorn mouthpieces are generally much deeper and V shaped, and this makes the tone much more mellow. Normal trumpet pieces are somewhat C shaped (more like a U), and 'lead' mouthpieces are quite shallow.Note: playing a lead mouthpiece doesn't make you play higher.The rest of the mouthpiece is like the weight or dynamics of the shoe. The 'venturi' or drill of the mouthpiece is the area between the bottom of the cup and the 'bore' area.
This can be wide or smaller. 1C has a medium deep cup with a large diameter. The large diameter creates a larger buzzing surface which in turn creates a fuller sound especially in the lower register. The drawback is that it doesn't give much support on the lips so unless you have a fairly developed trumpet embouchure, you'll tire quickly.The 7C has the same depth cup but a smaller diameter cup rim. It's usually used for young beginners with small mouths bc it gives a happy medium between cup depth and rim diameter. The drawback with the 7C is that the smaller diameter cup makes for a more narrow buzzing surface which makes for a thinner sound.If you're just starting out try the 7C. Better yet, if you have easy access to both, play on the 7C for a couple weeks and listen to your sound and how the mouthpiece feels.
3c Vs 7c Trumpet Mouthpiece Chart
Also have someone else listen to you. Then do the same with the 1C.The main point to take away is that there's no single perfect mouthpiece. You have to decide what you want to sound like and figure out what works best for you.
The rest is working around the drawbacks. Has a very thorough answer, but to focus on your particular question and the mouthpiece sizes you're most likely to encounter in the near future:Sizes of that format refer to the Bach numbering system, which is fairly ubiquitous but far from universal.
Yamaha and Schilke are two other very popular mouthpiece manufacturers that use different systems, but the Bach system is well known enough that even in other systems you're likely to hear comparisons to the Bach.The number is the rim diameter, and you may find it backwards from intuition. Smaller numbers mean narrower rims, which in turn means a wider cup diameter. This should be picked to fit your face the best.
Beginners often start on a 7C, partly because it's included with a lot of beginner trumpet kits, and also because it's usually a pretty safe choice. The narrower cup engages less of the face, which makes it a little more forgiving for beginners who haven't developed the muscles yet.The letter is the cup depth, with C being the middle-of-the-road all-purpose depth.
It's opposite of bra sizes, with A being deepest and E/F being shallowest. A deeper cup more easily produces a nice warm sound, but is more taxing to play. Conversely, a shallow cup is less taxing and makes it easier for higher notes to speak, but produces a shrill, piercing tone.tl;dr: Start on a 5C or 7C (doesn't really matter), and as you get more experienced try a 3C and see if it feels more comfortable. If you ever play lead/jazz kind of stuff, experiment with shallower cups.